Curse

Sofonisba · Mar 27, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

OK I hate to sound like I think you're stupid, but... are you sure the "-0"s floating upward are your damage or could they be the damage being done to you?

<--will sometimes be amazed for a split-second at her wanding damage, when in fact it's damage being done to her...

ss1986v2 · Mar 27, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

Yes strength has alot to do with a tanks ability to deal damage. It lets the warrior penitrate the enemy's armor. with low strength not much damage can be done, basicly the warrior's attacks would quotes "glance" off the armor of the enemy. so you pretty much want high strength to go with the other attributes.

and this is why the PUG wammo is dead...

as for the OP, try posting some screens. my money is on either wrong attribute, but more likely you are attacking rangers with their high elemental armor and the earth eles that use stoneflesh. try smacking a mock and lets see what the number come up as.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 27, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

Yes strength has alot to do with a tanks ability to deal damage. It lets the warrior penitrate the enemy's armor. with low strength not much damage can be done, basicly the warrior's attacks would quotes "glance" off the armor of the enemy. so you pretty much want high strength to go with the other attributes.

Actually, the 1% penetration on skills adds very little actual damage.
A quick test runs up:
16 Axe Mastery, customized 15^50 axe -
0 Strength Wild Blow deals 63 damage to an AL 60 target, and 31 damage on an AL 100 target.
Buffing Strength up to 10...
70 damage and 37 damage.

So, assuming you CRITICAL on an ATTACK SKILL, you'll do 7 more damage vs. squishies and 6 more damage on non-squishies.

You are much better maxing Weapon Mastery and a secondary attribute than trying to use Strength for damage. Strength is purely about the skills, as well as dumping spare points into.

A warrior with low Strength doesn't really deal much less damage than one with high Strength, it just means he's got other things to spend attribute points on.

And... let me re-iterate... Strength ONLY procs on attack SKILLS as opposed to every attack. So you'll do puny extra damage occasionally unless you happen to be a FGJ! Dragon Slasher... where you'll be able to do puny extra damage every attack.

dark_prince2023 · Mar 28, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

ok forget the question some people are not getting it and some are reading tooo much into it I have a MAX DMG SWORD from Profacies have MAX SWORDMANSHIP+1 have 6+1 Strength and I do more dmg with a low lv weapon from nightfall

ok now don't read too much into it and I have no time to screenshot! And forget the skills there doint there dmg its all a question about why my Sword from a different place dosen't work. or maybe I should go to photics sence noone can answer the question and most are reading too much into it!

ss1986v2 · Mar 28, 2007, 07:05 AM // 07:05

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Originally Posted by dark_prince2023

ok forget the question some people are not getting it and some are reading tooo much into it I have a MAX DMG SWORD from Profacies have MAX SWORDMANSHIP+1 have 6+1 Strength and I do more dmg with a low lv weapon from nightfall

ok now don't read too much into it and I have no time to screenshot! And forget the skills there doint there dmg its all a question about why my Sword from a different place dosen't work. or maybe I should go to photics sence noone can answer the question and most are reading too much into it!

heres the problem: no one knows what the problem is, so no one can answer it. if everything you are saying is correct, then there should be no reason for what you say is happening to be happening. you have everyone here stumped unless we get more information.

we are asking deeper into things because from the information given, the results you are getting should not be happening.

moko · Mar 28, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08

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Originally Posted by dark_prince2023

ok forget the question some people are not getting it and some are reading tooo much into it I have a MAX DMG SWORD from Profacies have MAX SWORDMANSHIP+1 have 6+1 Strength and I do more dmg with a low lv weapon from nightfall

ok now don't read too much into it and I have no time to screenshot! And forget the skills there doint there dmg its all a question about why my Sword from a different place dosen't work. or maybe I should go to photics sence noone can answer the question and most are reading too much into it!

HOW ABOUT YOU POST A FRIGGING SCREENSHOT OF YOUR K WINDOW, YOUR WEAPON AND THE MOBS YOU DEAL 0 DAMAGE TO? HUHUHUHUH?

dark_prince2023 · Mar 28, 2007, 07:11 AM // 07:11

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Originally Posted by ss1986v2

heres the problem: no one knows what the problem is, so no one can answer it. if everything you are saying is correct, then there should be no reason for what you say is happening to be happening. you have everyone here stumped unless we get more information.

we are asking deeper into things because from the information given, the results you are getting should not be happening.

yes but the things they are asking for don't affect anything they're good nothing is wrong with the skills dmg just when I attack reqularly and those are the attribut readings not how many points I used I'm lv 20 ascended and can only hurt stuff in prof for some reason was asking to see if anyone is having this problem I can do dmg but only if I change my wep with any other wep I picked up in nightfall don't play in factions so have no clues bout that area just asking cause I don't wana have to switch weps!

ss1986v2 · Mar 28, 2007, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by dark_prince2023

yes but the things they are asking for don't affect anything they're good nothing is wrong with the skills dmg just when I attack reqularly and those are the attribut readings not how many points I used I'm lv 20 ascended and can only hurt stuff in prof for some reason was asking to see if anyone is having this problem I can do dmg but only if I change my wep with any other wep I picked up in nightfall don't play in factions so have no clues bout that area just asking cause I don't wana have to switch weps!

i understand. but i have never, ever heard of anything ever even remotely similar to what is happening with you. it simply shouldnt happen. a 15-22 sword should do the exact same dmg to any enemy of equal armor level (aside from skills/buffs used by the enemy) regardless of chapter.

that leaves two options: either this is some kind of new, never before seen, unheard of glitch that you are the first and only person to experience; or we are not getting all the info (level of enemies, class of enemies, skills used by enemy, all the mods of the weapon, ect...). the obvious one to question first would be the info issue, as its the much more likely issue. no one is discrediting what you have said, we just want all of the info before we cry broken game mechanics.

dark_prince2023 · Mar 28, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Mokone

HOW ABOUT YOU POST A FRIGGING SCREENSHOT OF YOUR K WINDOW, YOUR WEAPON AND THE MOBS YOU DEAL 0 DAMAGE TO? HUHUHUHUH?

I'm currently at work wich is the only time I can come on the forum and IT'S ALLL MOBS IN NIGHTFALL

dark_prince2023 · Mar 28, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

getting a screen shot tomarrow its going to be funny

Turaan Tolgerias · Mar 28, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11

are you attacking the mandragors with stoneflesh aura? My Tyrian warrior has none of the problems you are going on about.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Mar 28, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

It's obviously the new anti-farm code, mobs become invincible after 3 consecutive forays into a zone. 0.O

Ya, once we see the screenshots, there might be something new to discuss.

Sofonisba · Mar 28, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

dark prince, people ARE trying to help you. I realize you are frustrated, but please understand that no one on this forum is trying to actively frustrate you.

If you are indeed experiencing a glitch or bug that needs to be fixed, you'd need to send screenies to ANet anyway, so when people are asking for that--in response to you asking for help--it shouldn't be too much more work for you.

KANE OG · Mar 28, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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no one on this forum is trying to actively frustrate you.

I sure am, but what could I possibly due to frustrate a person who can't deal damage to his enemies except lmao.

KANE

Stiltzkin · Mar 28, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

maybe since you are so frustrating ANET just decided to hate you.....

just do this, post a screen shot of you doing 0 dmg with the dragon sword, dmg with other swords, and your attribute list, then we actually might be able to help you.

Personally (this is what I would just do), if you are having so much frickin trouble with that sword, THEN SWITCH. It isn't that complicated. Even at that dmg with a sowrd isn't that great skills are deffinetaly better. Just stick with skills and don't fret over doing 0 dmg with your sword while just attacking.

Etta · Mar 28, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Well? where are the screen shots?

Spartan117 · Mar 28, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Are the numbers red or yellow? Red is damage to you, yellow is damage delt (Im sure you already know that but its easy to be mistaken)

Master Ketsu · Mar 28, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47

This thread reeks of being a joke topic....

RPGmaniac · Mar 28, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

If you're having problems with just the Kournans, probably what's happening is they're using [skill]"Stand Your Ground!"[/skill] or if it's just Mandragors, they're probably using [skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill].

Also, this is definatly starting to look like a joke thread, but if it isn't hope this helps a little bit.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Mar 29, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Jokes are really getting lame these days...sheesh.

Isn't there supposed to be like...a punchline?

More likely it was operator error, combat text misinterpretation, etc.

Mar 28, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52	#24
dark_prince2023 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: W/Mo	ok forget the question some people are not getting it and some are reading tooo much into it I have a MAX DMG SWORD from Profacies have MAX SWORDMANSHIP+1 have 6+1 Strength and I do more dmg with a low lv weapon from nightfall ok now don't read too much into it and I have no time to screenshot! And forget the skills there doint there dmg its all a question about why my Sword from a different place dosen't work. or maybe I should go to photics sence noone can answer the question and most are reading too much into it! Last edited by dark_prince2023; Mar 28, 2007 at 06:55 AM // 06:55..

Mar 28, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02	#35
Stiltzkin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Aetna Guild: Dark Siderz Profession: Mo/Me	maybe since you are so frustrating ANET just decided to hate you..... just do this, post a screen shot of you doing 0 dmg with the dragon sword, dmg with other swords, and your attribute list, then we actually might be able to help you. Personally (this is what I would just do), if you are having so much frickin trouble with that sword, THEN SWITCH. It isn't that complicated. Even at that dmg with a sowrd isn't that great skills are deffinetaly better. Just stick with skills and don't fret over doing 0 dmg with your sword while just attacking. Last edited by Stiltzkin; Mar 28, 2007 at 04:12 PM // 16:12..

Mar 27, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#21
Sofonisba Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]	OK I hate to sound like I think you're stupid, but... are you sure the "-0"s floating upward are your damage or could they be the damage being done to you? <--will sometimes be amazed for a split-second at her wanding damage, when in fact it's damage being done to her...

Mar 28, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33	#30
dark_prince2023 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: W/Mo	getting a screen shot tomarrow its going to be funny

Mar 28, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11	#31
Turaan Tolgerias Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Disturbed Ducks [QWEK] Profession: W/Mo	are you attacking the mandragors with stoneflesh aura? My Tyrian warrior has none of the problems you are going on about.

Mar 28, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37	#32
Kuldebar Valiturus Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Garden City, Idaho Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR) Profession: R/	It's obviously the new anti-farm code, mobs become invincible after 3 consecutive forays into a zone. 0.O Ya, once we see the screenshots, there might be something new to discuss.

Mar 28, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55	#33
Sofonisba Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]	dark prince, people ARE trying to help you. I realize you are frustrated, but please understand that no one on this forum is trying to actively frustrate you. If you are indeed experiencing a glitch or bug that needs to be fixed, you'd need to send screenies to ANet anyway, so when people are asking for that--in response to you asking for help--it shouldn't be too much more work for you.

Mar 28, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#36
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	Well? where are the screen shots?

Mar 28, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24	#37
Spartan117 Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: The Other Hand Profession: W/R	Are the numbers red or yellow? Red is damage to you, yellow is damage delt (Im sure you already know that but its easy to be mistaken)

Mar 28, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#38
Master Ketsu Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Location: middle of nowhere Guild: Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy] Profession: R/	This thread reeks of being a joke topic....

Mar 28, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31	#39
RPGmaniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	If you're having problems with just the Kournans, probably what's happening is they're using [skill]"Stand Your Ground!"[/skill] or if it's just Mandragors, they're probably using [skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill]. Also, this is definatly starting to look like a joke thread, but if it isn't hope this helps a little bit.

Mar 29, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26	#40
Kuldebar Valiturus Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Garden City, Idaho Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR) Profession: R/	Jokes are really getting lame these days...sheesh. Isn't there supposed to be like...a punchline? More likely it was operator error, combat text misinterpretation, etc.